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The Lawless podcast is my answer to unravelling drive, motivation and the forces that have brought about exceptional lives. They are my curated conversations with people of interest who have pushed back from conventional business and are sharing stories and legacies in the making. People who value innovation, sustainability, art and expression over a predetermined level of success. Join me every week where I introduce people from start-ups, to artists, athletes, bureacrats, philanthropists to thriving business owners who have done it on their own terms.

Mar 26, 2023

With dozens of overseas deployments in the wake of natural disasters, wars, and both underserviced and politically charged areas of the world. 

One of the biggest takeaways from this interview comes from looking at people at a human or individual level, beyond their conditioning or current events. Empathy and compassion are two things we should embrace locally and globally.

I gained a lot of perspective about life and death beyond my very privileged existence, and I love how curious Ian is about people and learning. Plus, we talk about the multi-billion dollar industries that are fueling and creating a lot of these gaps in human rights. 

We don’t solve the world's problems, but we talk about some of them, which is a beginning.

I hope this episode encourages you to broaden your worldview.